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Who else gets full BAB and gets ranged touch attacks like this? I'm sure you can see his point even if you don't quite agree with it. yes. A rewrite of a published book?

With guns its like he's not even wearing that wonderful armor that deflects magic swords and arrow but can't stop a little lead ball. I'm not trying to be offensive here, this just doesn't make sense to me and even with the (perceived) low damage, the higher hit rate seems like it would compensate for timetothink posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:26 AM link reply to post by Manhater Went back and looked....swamp gas, lens flare or did the flare knock out their This is the same reason you don't throw a lone BBEG against a party of 4 people, even. +1 Other things like move rate and range and reach.

overdark Mar 15, 2011, 01:23 pm Mr Jade wrote: overdark wrote: And I'm not trolling, I'm trying to understand how people can think this is balanced. Is an english longbowmen better trained than my mom with a .38? Do all those things and you will be heading in the right direction, and I will not shut anything down and I will read, enjoy, and be enlightened by you posts.

Go watch 'The Last Samurai' again guys with bows are just as effective as guys with guns. Dude! Further, guns are MUCH easier to use than bows, which had a huge effect on historical warfare as well. A big problem in this whole conversation seems to be that overdark mixes the two of these together.

One last example...I don't expect Stephen to let this live either... I didn't say 15 gunslingers i said 15 warriors. I've tried to clean this up but I don't like to do much beyond what I understand. WTF?

You have stated your point about 27465 times now. They shoot 150 times, and out of those shots, there will be several misfires. No name calling, please. And they have all been a blast.

The rule is not going to change. Don't do these things and I will get my boom (read: lock) stick. Ditch the rampant hyperbole. Remember we are all on the same side.

but 400 moms with 38s are going to clean the battle field up quicker than three english longbowmen.

That's how guns work IRL. That video looked like the Sun was just about to rip itself into two halves. I know a lot of people who don't want this kind of technology in their fantasy. Their reports are like the warning labels on prescriptions....they have to cover their asses.

That is exactly why the Samurai became extinct in japan, they were replaced by mooks with muskets. that would be like being a gunslinger. I don't get it myself, but eveidently the cost of guns and ammo and the low damage that guns do, somehow balances this out. Your cache administrator is webmaster.

Theirs are limited by the number of spells they get per day. I have shown you evidence, all you have done is insult me. Keep it civil and friendly.

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I like that...that's exactly the kind of question we want people to ask when they decide to pick up a gun in Pathfinder. I've read your points, and it's not the points I object to. overdark Mar 15, 2011, 02:09 pm Marshall Jansen wrote: overdark wrote: Ok lets see, who else gets touch attacks? Why?

Ya be awesome. overdark Mar 15, 2011, 02:04 pm Realmwalker wrote: MysticNumber ServitorOfAsmodeus wrote: What I find ridiculous is that a gun at close range is more effective against a commoner with 14 Dex So while attacks vs. We are going to balance the costs of actions and abilities of the gunslinger with that in mind, and we have made fixes and are going to continue to do fixes

At all. amongus posted on Mar, 7 2012 @ 11:57 PM link edit on 7-3-2012 by amongus because: Doub post timetothink posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:00 AM link 3-day Predominantly unsettled levels are expected for the third day (10 March). What does this represent?

It takes a bit of tactical know how to do this with out getting thrashed in melee. Just a little tweaking and my prestige class out in time for me to play in carrion crown and Im happy. And something that I'm frankly shocked to see from Paizo as all of their stuff up until this has been very well designed. wrksstudios posted on Mar, 8 2012 @ 12:00 AM link Ya, I believe that solar flares cause Geo-activity.

Stephen Radney-MacFarland isn't? Guns lack the range of other touch attack users (spellcasters, alchemists, high-level fighters who take brilliant energy weapons), they are limited in other ways with substantial costs involved to increase their... www.nasa.gov... The arrival time is estimated to be sometime between 0600-1000Z.

Mostly I was hoping for a comment from an actual Paizo staffer but that seems unlikely now. Lol wut? Really? Really?!